What is hyperlexia and how does it relate to Jason Dietrich's story?

Hyperlexia is an advanced reading ability that Jason experienced from an early age, reading at a fifth-grade level by age five. Though often misunderstood as a challenge, it became a catalyst for extraordinary memory, musical talent, and scientific curiosity.

How did hands-on learning help Jason?

Hands-on STEM learning transformed his confidence, opening doors to opportunities in space education, UN involvement, and a broader sense of belonging.

What is Jason Dietrich's professional role?

Jason Dietrich is a STEM educator and advocate for inclusive education dedicated to transforming perceptions of hyperlexia and neurodivergence.

What challenges did Jason face in traditional education?

Jason battled social anxiety and found his 'island' in STEM education, suggesting traditional education systems overlooked his strengths and unique way of learning.

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<h1>Reading the World</h1>Jason Dietrich InterviewEdited for Clarity and ConcisenessJason Dietrich: If you are promoting diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility, then you need to be accepting of individuals like myself. Just because someone is neurodiverse does not mean they cannot do something meaningful. They may find a different way to reach an answer, or they may open an entirely new path. You do not know what someone like me might be able to do. A neurodivergent person could help discover a cure for Alzheimer’s or cancer. They could become the next great astronaut. That possibility matters.Ali Alhajji: Welcome to Reading the World. I’m Ali Alhajji.Today’s conversation centers on education, neurodiversity, and the different ways we come to interpret the world. More specifically, we will be thinking about hyperlexia, STEM education, and the question of what schools recognize — or fail to recognize — as intelligence, ability, and meaningful learning.For many students, traditional educational systems appear to offer a clear pathway to achievement. But for neurodivergent learners, those same systems can feel constraining. They may reward certain forms of communication, attention, and reading while overlooking other ways of noticing, interpreting, and making sense of the world.Hyperlexia is often associated with advanced reading ability, especially at an early age. But it can also involve challenges in reading comprehension, social communication, and navigating educational environments not designed for neurodivergent learners. So the question becomes: what happens when a learner is able to read words, patterns, or systems in remarkable ways, but is still misunderstood by the classroom around them?To help us think through these questions, I’m joined today by Jason Dietrich. Jason is a STEM educator and advocate for inclusive educational practices, especially for neurodivergent learners. His own experience with hyperlexia shapes the way he thinks about teaching, learning, STEM, and educational access.Together, we will discuss how STEM became for him not only an academic pathway, but also a language of discovery, belonging, and possibility. And we will ask what education might become if it took neurodivergent forms of perception and interpretation more seriously.Jason, welcome to Reading the World.Jason Dietrich: Ali, it’s great to be here. Thanks so much for having me.Ali: Jason, I’m very glad to have you here. I’d like to begin with your own story, but not simply as biography. I want to ask about it as a way of entering the larger question of the episode.You have described your early academic life as marked by uncertainty, exclusion, and feelings of inferiority. Then you found what you call your island in STEM education.Can you take us back to that period and describe what education felt like before STEM became that island for you?Jason: That’s a great question, Ali. It goes all the way back to when I was five years old.My parents noticed at a young age that I could read words at a very high level. When I was in kindergarten, I was reading at about a fifth-grade level. My parents were amazed. They thought that if I could read words at that level, I must also be able to comprehend what I was reading.Then they began asking me critical-thinking questions. They would ask, “Jason, what does this word mean?” or “What does this phrase mean?” Very often, I would say, “I don’t know.”That was when I was diagnosed with hyperlexia. For listeners who may not be familiar with it, I would describe hyperlexia as one branch of autism. It can involve the ability to read words at a very high level while still struggling with reading comprehension. That was exactly my experience.Early in my educational journey, unfortunately, I did not receive much support from educators or administrators. Many did not give me the time or effort I needed to thrive academically, emotionally, or socially. One teacher in elementary school even wrote an evaluation of my abilities that was completely inaccurate. When I later moved into middle school, my teachers looked at that evaluation and said, “Who is this kid? This is not Jason.”So I struggled a lot in elementary school. I dealt with social anxiety, I cried often, and I spent a lot of time alone. At the time, that felt negative, but later it became something more positive.In middle school, things began to change. My teachers noticed that I was struggling, but they also introduced me to STEM — earth science, chemistry, hands-on learning. Once I encountered those subjects, I was hooked. I enjoyed being the scientist. I learned best through visual aids and hands-on experiences.That became the gateway to the next opportunity. Instead of walking on the ground, I felt like I was walking on cloud nine. My middle school teachers noticed me, valued me, and did not push me aside. That made all the difference.Ali: Did STEM feel different because of the content, the teachers, the structure, or the way it allowed you to think?Jason: I think the biggest thing was the way it allowed me to think.Technology has advanced so much over the last several decades, and our problems have become more complex. That means we need more analytical thinking, higher-level thinking, and critical-thinking skills.I learn best through visual aids and hands-on learning. I do not do well when a classroom is dominated by textbooks and rote memorization. Some background reading is fine, but if that is the only method, it does not work for me.With STEM, I enjoyed being the scientist. I felt like I could be Jason. That was very important. There were great STEM teachers and also some bad ones, but I learned from both. What helped me most was the opportunity to use my hands, focus deeply, and work through problems in a practical way.That connects to what I do now as a communications specialist. I design podcasts, videos, and other media, and those also involve hands-on learning, focus, and creativity.Ali: What I’m hearing is that STEM was not only a subject area. It became a different way of encountering the world.Because this podcast is called Reading the World, I want to stay for a moment with the idea of reading. Usually, when people hear the word “reading,” they think of books, texts, and written language. But your story invites a wider understanding.How has hyperlexia shaped the way you read — not only words, but patterns, systems, people, classrooms, or the world around you?Jason: That’s a wonderful question.With hyperlexia, I can decode words at a high level, but my reading comprehension is slower. Sometimes I need to read something two or three times before I fully understand it. Sometimes I understand it the first time; it depends on the text.If you asked me to read a historical poem from centuries ago, for example, I would probably struggle. It would take time for me to process and understand it. But despite those challenges, hyperlexia has also brought benefits.Through STEM, my teachers helped me discover that I have an eidetic memory. That has helped me study, improved my reading ability, and supported my work in video-making, social media, and marketing. It also helped me discover that I was a good musician. I play clarinet and I sing.For me, the larger point is that hyperlexia is not simply a disability. I think of it as a superpower. Everyone is here for a unique purpose and reason. Everyone has something distinctive to contribute.Ali: What do people often misunderstand about hyperlexia?Jason: One of the biggest issues is that many teachers are not trained on it. There is not enough education in colleges and universities about different learning profiles and neurodivergent experiences. Because of that, there is a lot of misunderstanding.For me, social situations can sometimes lead to sensory overload. If there are bright lights, loud noises, or many things coming at me at once, I can become anxious. I have had panic attacks before, and they still happen from time to time.Sometimes, when I am speaking with someone, I may look down or not look directly into their eyes. Some people may misread that and think I am being rude or that I do not have good communication skills. But that is not what is happening. In social situations, I can become nervous, especially because of my elementary school experiences. I still sometimes worry about how people will judge me.There is also masking involved. I try to prevent judgment by hiding parts of my experience. But now I am advocating more openly and sharing my story, because awareness matters.Ali: How did your relationship with language affect your experience of school?Jason: Since I could read words at a high level, that was a strength. But because I struggled to comprehend what I was reading, there were also major limitations.In elementary school, I remember thinking I was a “stupid reader.” I even told my parents that. Looking back now, I can smile a little at that, but at the time I really believed I was not good at reading and did not want to read again.My parents encouraged me to continue. But because I did not have strong support from teachers and administrators, my confidence was very low.I have also noticed that my auditory processing is slower. If someone gives a lecture and I do not have visual support, I can zone out or forget things. I learn best with visual aids. Everyone learns differently and at different rates, and I want people to understand that there is nothing wrong with the way I think.Ali: How did that affect the way teachers or classmates interpreted you?Jason: In elementary school, I was often judged and criticized. I remember my first-grade teacher telling my parents, “Only I know what’s best for Jason. You, as parents, know nothing.” My parents were stunned.That kind of attitude made school very stressful. But when I reached middle school, things improved because my teachers accepted me for who I was. That made all the difference. My positivity grew, and I began reaching new heights.That is why I want to share my story. Many people do not know much about hyperlexia, and if they understand it better, they may be able to provide accommodations and broaden how they think about diversity.Ali: Sometimes schools are very good at identifying deficits, but much less good at interpreting difference. Does that match your experience?Jason: Yes, especially in elementary school.I think many teachers are not properly trained or experienced when it comes to different learning needs and learning styles. There may be some discussion of disabilities, autism, Asperger’s, or ADHD, but often not in depth.I would like to see future educators spend time in special education or emotional support classrooms as part of their preparation. They need to know students with different learning profiles because they may have those students in their own classrooms.But training is not enough. Educators also have to care. Many of my elementary school teachers and administrators did not care, and that made things worse. In middle school and high school, my teachers did care, and that made all the difference.So caring is important, but educators also need expertise. If we combine both, we can make a real difference.Ali: This raises an important question. When schools say a student is struggling, are they always describing the student accurately, or are they sometimes describing the limits of the educational environment?Jason: It depends on the school district, the resources available, and the quality of the teachers.If someone says a student is struggling, the next questions should be: How are they struggling? What are they struggling with? Why are they struggling? When have they struggled?If a school simply says, “This student is struggling,” but does not provide concrete details, remediation, or accommodations, then the school is not serving the student or the parents well.In elementary school, teachers often said I was struggling, but there was not much care or support. I did have two teachers who tried, and I give them credit, but overall the environments were toxic.In middle school, it was different. Teachers identified where I struggled, but they also helped me identify my strengths. That combination is important: caring, evidence, and a plan for what can be done.Ali: You describe STEM education as life-changing, and I want to be careful with that phrase. It can easily become a slogan. But in your case, it seems to mean something specific. STEM gave you a structure through which you could think, participate, and grow.What did STEM make possible for you that other educational spaces did not?Jason: One of the biggest things about STEM is how vast it is.If you go outside on a clear night and look up at the sky, you see the stars and maybe some planets. You start asking big questions: Could I go to the moon? Could I go to Mars? What is out there?STEM made me curious. It encouraged me to design, explore, and engage in higher-level analytical thinking. That was the key difference.One of my goals is to become an astronaut. I want to go to the moon and possibly Mars. I am not sure I would want to live on Mars, but I would love to walk on the red planet.STEM also shows that just because someone is neurodivergent does not mean they cannot pursue big goals. Neurodivergent people can contribute to science, technology, space exploration, and many other fields.Ali: Was there a particular teacher, lesson, or moment that opened the door?Jason: Yes. I had many good teachers in middle school, but one I especially want to mention is Ms. Wagner, one of my learning support teachers.She helped me see that hyperlexia was not simply a disability. She saw my talents and did not push me aside. I get emotional talking about it because I am deeply thankful. She and my other middle school and high school teachers helped move me in the right direction.One STEM lesson that really stayed with me happened in seventh grade. We had an astronomy project where we had to go outside for about two weeks, observe the night sky, draw stars or constellations, and write down our observations in a journal.I took my mom outside with me, and we both enjoyed it. I loved looking at the night sky. I loved drawing, observing, and asking the what, why, where, when, and how. Even on cloudy nights, we had to report what we observed.That project helped me understand what it felt like to be a scientist. It was a gateway experience.Ali: How did astronomy, physics, or environmental science change your sense of yourself as a learner?Jason: Environmental science opened many doors for me.In college, I participated in the Millennium Fellowship, which had ties to the United Nations and the United Nations Academic Impact. My team applied to be part of the 2018 cohort, and we developed a project connected to our institution.I worked on the education subcommittee, where we raised awareness about the Sustainable Development Goals. We spoke to elementary, middle, and high school students, including at my former high school. Our goal was to speak to a few hundred students, but we ended up reaching more than a thousand.I also had the opportunity to speak at the United Nations headquarters in New York City about the work my college was doing. That was an incredibly meaningful experience. It connected me with global leaders and made me even more passionate about the planet.Physics also connected to rocketry and space exploration. I worked at a space adventure camp where we did coding, robotics, rocketry, and drones. So getting introduced to STEM led me into many different pathways.Ali: That connection between STEM and belonging is important because it moves the conversation beyond skills and careers. It asks how knowledge can create a place for someone.Let’s turn now to the educational system itself. You have spoken about access, inclusion, diversity, equity, and participation in STEM. These are important words, but they can become abstract very quickly unless we connect them to actual classroom practices.What are the most common misconceptions educators have about neurodivergent learners, especially in STEM settings?Jason: Besides lack of experience and training, I think one major misconception is the assumption that a neurodivergent person cannot do certain things.That is wrong. If you are promoting diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility, then you need to accept individuals like myself. There is often a lot of judgment, and I want to prove those assumptions wrong.Just because someone is neurodiverse does not mean they cannot succeed. It may mean they find a different avenue or come up with a different way to reach an answer. It may even lead to something new.You do not know what someone like me might be able to do. A neurodivergent individual could help discover a cure for Alzheimer’s or cancer. They could become the next great astronaut.But one harmful comment — saying someone has a disability, is useless, or cannot do anything — can seriously damage confidence and motivation. We need to stop judging, and we need more training.It is one thing to listen to someone’s story, but people also have to apply what they learn. Listening without action does not create change.Ali: I’d like to make this practical now. You have experience with scaffolding, research-based instructional practices, STEM content, communication, digital learning, and curriculum design.What specific strategies can make STEM education more accessible and meaningful for neurodiverse learners?Jason: There are many strategies, but one area I would emphasize is podcasting.Since the COVID-19 pandemic, podcasting has grown significantly. The pandemic was stressful for everyone, but one positive development was the expansion of digital and virtual learning. Podcasting can be a powerful tool because it allows students to explore topics they care about and communicate in creative ways.As a communications specialist, I design videos, podcasts, social media content, and YouTube Shorts. There is a lot of hands-on learning involved in that work, and it requires focus, creativity, and planning.Students can create podcasts or videos about almost anything they are passionate about. They need to narrow down their goals, understand what they want to communicate, and then begin creating content.I would encourage schools to see podcasting as one way to increase awareness and support different learning styles. I am also working on a podcasting kit and thinking about how schools can raise money for podcasting resources so students can have access to those experiences.Ali: What I appreciate here is that inclusion is not being treated as a decorative value. It is a design question. It asks how learning environments are built, who they are built for, and who has to struggle simply to enter them.As we move toward the end, I want to return to the larger frame of the show.On Reading the World, I often think of reading as more than decoding text. Reading is interpretation. It is attention. It is learning how to notice what is present, what is hidden, what is assumed, and what is excluded.If listeners come away from this conversation with one sharper way of reading the world of education, especially through the lens of neurodiversity, what would you want them to notice differently? What should they notice differently about students, intelligence, STEM, or the classroom itself?Jason: One of the biggest things I would want listeners to take away is that we need to help people pursue their dreams.Whether you are in a classroom, workplace, or another part of society, you need to ask people what they are curious about and what their dreams are. If a child wants to be a pilot, for example, an educator can say, “That is exciting. Think about all the places you could go.” That interest can then connect to math, science, engineering, and other areas of learning.At the beginning of a student’s experience, educators and parents should ask: What are you curious about? What are your dreams and visions? Even if you cannot see the full path yet, you should not crush a student’s ambition.Asking those questions helps you know the student. It can help launch them to new heights.I would also encourage people to spend time alone and reflect. Earlier, I mentioned that being alone felt negative when I was younger, but it became positive because it helped me know myself. It helped me focus on who I am and what matters to me.If people can know themselves, stay grounded, and pursue their dreams with the right support, that can make all the difference.Ali: Jason, thank you for joining me on Reading the World. I’m grateful for the generosity and clarity with which you have shared your experience and your thinking.Today’s conversation asked us to reconsider what education sees and what it misses. Through the lens of hyperlexia, STEM, and neurodiversity, we have been thinking about reading in a broader sense: reading words, reading patterns, reading systems, and reading the assumptions built into our classrooms.Perhaps one of the central lessons here is that educational success cannot be measured only by how well students adapt to existing structures. It must also be measured by whether those structures are capable of recognizing different forms of intelligence, perception, and meaning-making.Thank you for listening to Reading the World. Until next time, let’s continue to read the world thoughtfully.

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